doug schoen joins us, former advisor to president bill clinton, fox news contributor. terry holt joins us, former bush-cheney national spokesman and former senior advisor to the rnc. good to see you both. doug, what is amazing to a lot of people is that they're not even talking to each other. the last meaningful conversation between the president and boehner, for example, was 10 days ago. look, when you were in the clinton white house that's not the way things worked, right? >> absolutely not, gregg. president clinton and newt gingrich, the then speaker, despite their very real differences were talking all the time. i think at one point they spent a total of almost 35 hours in total together. bottom line, there was always a sense of national purpose that i think is missing here, gregg. bottom line on both side i think there's a lot to be accounted for. gregg: you know, terry, let me put up on the board what this means to the average american. all right. 300 bucks if you're the lowest taxpayer, there you are but you're talking about if you make 40 to 50,000, $1700. go t